jqpabc123 10 hours ago

The real fraud is the idea that Social Security is rampant with fraud --- without being able to show any proof.

  • JumpCrisscross 9 hours ago

    The fact that DOGE went through as deeply as they did and found, to a rounding error, zero fraud, is sort of remarkable from my priors around government efficiency.

    • jqpabc123 8 hours ago

      In my experience, the majority of the fraud is legal.

      Charging the DoD $400 for a toilet seat is an absolute fraud --- but perfectly legal if they agree to pay it.

      Replacing perfectly functional equipment just in order to use up this year's budget and avoid cuts for next year is a common fraud that occurs at all levels of government --- done without breaking any laws.

      • JumpCrisscross 7 hours ago

        > In my experience, the majority of the fraud is legal

        DOGE was never concerned with legality.

        > Charging the DoD $400 for a toilet seat is an absolute fraud --- but perfectly legal if they agree to pay it

        Sure. But we didn't find evidencde of this. In part because DOGE didn't bother with our military-industrial complex.

        I'll grant that part of our government hasn't been certified clean or dirty. But the fact that DOGE was unable to find these $400 toilet seats practically anywhere, save, perhaps, for in USAID, is a clean-sheet record most enterprises would aspire to.

        • jqpabc123 20 minutes ago

          "DOGE was never concerned with legality."

          So they have their own special definition of "fraud"?