Our city banned fluoride decades ago. Thankfully, our pediatrician is so insistent on it that she treats all children as part of their pediatric visits.
But banning it from consumer products? Surely they can't be serious. Why not just target all vitamin and mineral products then? Single out fluoride is evidence that these activists are not very serious or intelligent.
Gotta keep them grift plates spinning somehow. Ignorant scare-mongering leads to "concerned families", which leads to more money to those orgs that prey on the ignorant.
An introductory science course should be mandatory in all high schools. The scientific method should be ingrained in everyone's mind. Certain groups would or have lobbied against this as they are afraid the scientific method will threaten to pull the veil from their scams.
Yeah like the fluoride producers who have inveigled people, even health care professionals, to ignore the dosage rules of science, and just claim that fluoride in H2O is a viable solution to something? I hope so
If by "moving goal posts" you mean flat out lying, then, yes. The mainstream media aids in this by taking every politician, even known habitual fabulists, at face value.
I think it's both. I do believe the politicians and Republican voters with education fully understand what is going on and are lying about it. I also believe the majority of the conservative movement is ignorant as fuck and honestly believe the lies that they are told. When my father ranted at me about all Muslims wanting to kill or convert us, I don't think he was lying. He was deeply misguided by decades of conservative propaganda (AM radio + over the road truck driver) and honestly believed it. It's gotten so bad that the conservative party is now electing the true believers. You can see it in folks like Sarah Palin, Marjorie Taylor Greene and RFK Jr. The right wing strategy to control their base and ensure they could never be at real risk of impeachment like Nixon has infected their leadership and it's willful ignorance from top to bottom now with grifters spread throughout.
But, despite the success, fluoride has always had detractors—from conspiracy theorists in the past suggesting the naturally occurring mineral is a form of communist mind control, to more recent times, in which low-quality, controversial studies have suggested that high doses may lower IQ in children.
To steel man the anti-fluoride argument you really should acknowledge the concerns about fluoride interfering with thyroid hormone synthesis, which can affect every system in the body.
That study looked at 27 studies in Asia and found only when crossing 2.5mg/L fluoride concentration did Thyroid issues present in a non-linear fashion.
> Dose-response curve showed no change in TSH concentrations in the lowest water fluoride exposure range, while the hormone levels started to linearly increase around 2.5 mg/L
The CDC recommends 0.7mg/L in water sources. Not a concern.
Our city banned fluoride decades ago. Thankfully, our pediatrician is so insistent on it that she treats all children as part of their pediatric visits.
But banning it from consumer products? Surely they can't be serious. Why not just target all vitamin and mineral products then? Single out fluoride is evidence that these activists are not very serious or intelligent.
Gotta keep them grift plates spinning somehow. Ignorant scare-mongering leads to "concerned families", which leads to more money to those orgs that prey on the ignorant.
An introductory science course should be mandatory in all high schools. The scientific method should be ingrained in everyone's mind. Certain groups would or have lobbied against this as they are afraid the scientific method will threaten to pull the veil from their scams.
> pull the veil from their scams
Yeah like the fluoride producers who have inveigled people, even health care professionals, to ignore the dosage rules of science, and just claim that fluoride in H2O is a viable solution to something? I hope so
After other states banned fluoridated drinking water, people said that it was better to put the fluoride directly on your teeth via tooth brushing.
Apparently that won't be happening any more either.
It's a very long line of moving goal posts from that crowd.
"Roe V. Wade is settled case law! Nothing will happen to it."
"Trump doesn't even believe in project 2025, what are you talking about?"
etc.
If by "moving goal posts" you mean flat out lying, then, yes. The mainstream media aids in this by taking every politician, even known habitual fabulists, at face value.
I think it's both. I do believe the politicians and Republican voters with education fully understand what is going on and are lying about it. I also believe the majority of the conservative movement is ignorant as fuck and honestly believe the lies that they are told. When my father ranted at me about all Muslims wanting to kill or convert us, I don't think he was lying. He was deeply misguided by decades of conservative propaganda (AM radio + over the road truck driver) and honestly believed it. It's gotten so bad that the conservative party is now electing the true believers. You can see it in folks like Sarah Palin, Marjorie Taylor Greene and RFK Jr. The right wing strategy to control their base and ensure they could never be at real risk of impeachment like Nixon has infected their leadership and it's willful ignorance from top to bottom now with grifters spread throughout.
Ah yes, this is what Greatness looks like.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393512...
That study looked at 27 studies in Asia and found only when crossing 2.5mg/L fluoride concentration did Thyroid issues present in a non-linear fashion.
> Dose-response curve showed no change in TSH concentrations in the lowest water fluoride exposure range, while the hormone levels started to linearly increase around 2.5 mg/L
The CDC recommends 0.7mg/L in water sources. Not a concern.
https://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/about/community-water-fluor...