ahmeneeroe-v2 5 months ago

Nothing to see here. Per TFA, the league has content deals with twitter, meta, & reddit, but not with Bluesky.

  • do_not_redeem 5 months ago

    Having a deal with one platform doesn't automatically mean you can't post on another. If Twitter/Reddit are afraid enough of Bluesky that they are writing exclusivity into their contracts, I think that's something to see.

    I'd love to know why they needed a custom contract in the first place. My company doesn't have a "deal" with Twitter but we still post there.

    • danirod 5 months ago

      > I'd love to know why they needed a custom contract in the first place. My company doesn't have a "deal" with Twitter but we still post there.

      I suspect it has to do with the permission to share highlights from the match in their official accounts. Probably those videos belong to the broadcasters and not to the teams themselves. One of the links from the article [1] says that the agreement provides X users with highlights such as touchdowns.

      This does not mean that not being able to create an account on a different network is a dumb restriction, even if it's for sharing news or pictures of the team on special days and not videos from the games.

      [1] https://deadline.com/2024/04/nfl-x-twitter-renew-content-par...

    • ahmeneeroe-v2 5 months ago

      Your company is not the NFL. The NFL is a content-based company that tightly controls its content distribution channels.

      No one is afraid here, they are just businessmen doing business.

      • do_not_redeem 5 months ago

        > tightly controls its content distribution channels

        Buy why? What control do they need beyond normal copyright? And what does the NFL gain from not being able to reach tens of millions of Bluesky users?

        • hrunt 5 months ago

          > What control do they need beyond normal copyright?

          Money. Content partners pay to have NFL content on their platforms, NFL content is highly valuable, so the NFL doesn't want anyone else to monetize it without the NFL getting their cut.

          • ahmeneeroe-v2 5 months ago

            Yes! They don't have a Bluesky monetization strategy yet or they have one and it says Bluesky isn't profitable for them or they have one and it forecasts profitability but some counter-party has not given the NFL their preferred terms.

            That is a lot of words to just say: money.

    • vinyl7 5 months ago

      The Trending page is ALWAYS full of sport hashtags. Always...like over 75% of the trending topics are sports. No matter how many times i click "Not Interested" it still shows me sports. Its like ESPN is paying a huge amount of money to completely monopolize the trends list

jmclnx 5 months ago

Nice, yet another reason to go to Bluesky :)

But my guess is Twitter and sites like that pay for the NFL to be on their site. Since Bluesky is decentralized, no place or one to extort $ from.

  • JourneyToLunar 5 months ago

    Is it really decentralised? What server can I sign up to? Apart from bsky.app or am I overlooking something?

    • verdverm 5 months ago

      https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds You can run your own server if you like

      There are also 3rd party algorithms, moderation, and interfaces you can mix and match

      • PaulHoule 5 months ago

        Also bsky doesn't suppress links to other sites the way X, TiKTok, Facebook and many other networks do. That's a more basic "federation" practice because it lets you

        https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928550/posse-posting-a...

        • verdverm 5 months ago

          There are also a number of projects that bring comments on ATProto back to the original content

          Do you think WhiteWind fits into the POSSE model because your content lives in your ATProto database?

          • PaulHoule 5 months ago

            In my mind POSSE is about loose instead of close integration.

            If I understand what's going on with WhiteWind it's taking advantage of another dimension of federation which the "fediverse" doesn't address, which is identity. It seems it's a blog service that is linked to my ATProto account that anyone can use so long as they have one.

            I'll make the case that the fediverse style of federation has a low level of trust for this sort of things. If I log on to a service that uses Facebook or Bluesky or whatever for identity, there's always the risk that the people who run the service can let somebody else log in. I've got some trust in mastodon.social but plenty of small server administrators in the fediverse have demonstrated that they can't be trusted.

      • JourneyToLunar 5 months ago

        Cool, didn't know that.. PDS sounds interesting.

        • verdverm 5 months ago

          yup, it seems like it is more mature than last time I looked. Going to be spinning up my own when I get a chance

    • badgersnake 5 months ago

      It’s not really decentralised. You could run your own server, but everyone is on their server so they can pull the rug anytime they want.

      • Kye 5 months ago

        There are over 2700 independent PDSes.

        https://github.com/mary-ext/atproto-scraping

        The number seems to double every few months. It's about as decentralized as Mastodon with its handful of servers controlling most of the network and a long tail of small and single user independent instances. The only difference is recovering from bluesky's official instance (bsky.app) dying is you would have to connect to a different Bluesky instance or convert your PDS data into a website, or port it to some other social media software like Mastodon. I wouldn't be surprised if there are already projects underway to make it possible.